Today we鈥檙e excited to feature the fourth episode of the Listening in Place Project with Cassie Carroll (, 鈥16), which we share monthly here on the Intersections blog. After graduating from 天美视频, Cassie launched , a venture in which she is collecting stories from church planters, practitioners, pastors, social entrepreneurs, and theologians throughout the United States who are practicing new, innovative, and compelling visions of what it means to be the church.
In this episode, Cassie talks with Marvin Wadlow, Jr., filmmaker and co-founder of the 鈥攁 faith-based nonprofit committed to building awareness, sparking change, and fostering meaningful, ongoing dialogue that transforms how individuals and communities engage issues of difference and inequality.
鈥淭here鈥檚 an absence of conversation, which leads to an absence of language of how to participate culturally with each other.鈥
Marvin shares about how he met his Table Setters co-founder, Matthew John Schmitt, and how the two of them鈥攁 58-year-old Black man and a 38-year-old White man鈥攂ecame friends, part of each other鈥檚 families, and eventually partners in leading this organization. He and Cassie talk about the need for deep, ongoing conversation around issues that our culture has ignored or whitewashed for far too long, and they reflect on the beauty鈥攁nd the challenge鈥攐f engaging difference with curiosity, humility, and courage.
鈥淚f Jesus can set the table with the disciples and the kiss-of-death Judas, then we should be able to set the table with anybody and have really hard conversations.鈥
You can learn more about the vision behind the Listening in Place Project , and read more from Cassie鈥檚 time with Marvin over on the . And for more from Cassie, check out the presentation of her Integrative Project,
Music courtesy of .
https://soundcloud.com/user-958825369/listening-in-place-project-marvin-wadlow-jr